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Good Options
- Fly in with short hop drill → land between them → shine. It's actually pretty hard to shield grab a drill on shield. You'll split them up and you can kill nana off this.
- On shield: Strong nair into shine or strong spaced bair → dashback.
- Standing and waiting on the outer edge of the platform (here's fiction explaining why). Similarly standing in the corner (though counter-intuitive) is good too.
- similarly be careful crossing them up by fullhopping over them.
Avoid
- Teching toward the corner
- Always trying to fall on top of them with fullhop (drill). They have tools to deal with this (sh upair, uptilt), though they are commital. You've got to mix up the grounded game with the up down game.
They're Looking For
- Low %
- wavedash → jab → grab
- I can hold down and shine.
- wavedash → (shield) grab
- stay out of wavedash range when dash dancing. If you see them wavedash in, fullhop is usually a good option to try to deal with it. They'll probaby shield your fh bair.
- weird desync blizzard / ice block stuff.
- just jump over it and ignore
- wavedash → jab → grab
- Mid %
- High %
- wavedash → downsmash
Stage Position
Edgeguards
On grab
- If both climbers, usually downthrow → shine. It hits the other climber and is pretty hard to punish.
- Sopo do upthrow upair stuff.
Stage Preference
- Battlefield
- makes runaway game pretty easy.
- Fountain
- Yoshis
- Dreamland
- Stadium
- FD